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Tommy
03-15-2012, 12:23
We have problems with eurotrial.org, so I put the regulation here untill Eurotrialpage is up and running again

http://pirate4x4.no/docs/regulations2012part-i-en.pdf
http://pirate4x4.no/docs/regulations2012part-ii-en.pdf
http://pirate4x4.no/docs/regulations2012part-iii-en.pdf
http://pirate4x4.no/docs/regulations2012part-iv-en.pdf
http://pirate4x4.no/docs/regulations2012annex-32-en.pdf
http://pirate4x4.no/docs/regulations2012annex-33-en.pdf
http://pirate4x4.no/docs/regulations2012annex-35-en.pdf

uni
03-24-2012, 14:37
" Protection nets or armstraps must be used. Net must cover the door/window area so the arm/hand
cannot come outside the car. This also applies to armstraps. If arm straps are used they must open
together with the harness."

I didn't found anywhere allowed construction of net? Is that old 50x50 mm and 2 mm wire or race use made fabric net properly installed still valid?

Would like to know quite quickly, cause people here build cars...

Hannu Nurminen

Lasse suzicán
03-25-2012, 19:33
" Protection nets or armstraps must be used. Net must cover the door/window area so the arm/hand
cannot come outside the car. This also applies to armstraps. If arm straps are used they must open
together with the harness."

I didn't found anywhere allowed construction of net? Is that old 50x50 mm and 2 mm wire or race use made fabric net properly installed still valid?

Would like to know quite quickly, cause people here build cars...

Hannu Nurminen
Yes...
And sorry. Missed that.
I put that in to the rules in a update...

giacomo
04-06-2012, 11:12
Hello,

the point 3.2.6.4 Basic structure must be made according to one of the following designs

Designs 2 and 3 are actually the same, design 2 should be fixed according to description.

ciao

junde
04-13-2012, 11:23
Hello.

I still donīt find what kind of armstraps or net is to be used?

Rule is still same as earlier on eurotrial.org!



Junde

SldgHmmr
04-13-2012, 12:19
Hello,

the point 3.2.6.4 Basic structure must be made according to one of the following designs

Designs 2 and 3 are actually the same, design 2 should be fixed according to description.

ciao
No, they are not the same, one of them is with a B-bar and 2 lateral half sidebars, the other is 2 lateral sidebars with NO B-bar.

giacomo
04-13-2012, 16:14
No, they are not the same, one of them is with a B-bar and 2 lateral half sidebars, the other is 2 lateral sidebars with NO B-bar.

The descriptions are different but actually the images/sketches of the roll cages version 2 and 3 are the same, the second sketch should be different with an one-piece B-bar as I saw in a former version of the rules. Just a "copy and paste" mistake.

Tommy
04-22-2012, 21:33
Hello.

I still donīt find what kind of armstraps or net is to be used?

Rule is still same as earlier on eurotrial.org!



Junde

As you alreaddy for sure have read Junde, this is now the rule for all classes

3.4.2.12 Protective netting /Armstraps
Recommended but not necessary. Protection nets or armstraps must be used. Net must cover the door/window area so the arm/hand cannot come outside the car. This also applies to armstraps. If arm straps are used they must open together with the harness.

There is no rules saying what kind of net or what it shpould be made of... for sure it should have been... but for this year this is the text

Brynjar
04-23-2012, 06:48
3.4.2.12 Protective netting /Armstraps
Recommended but not necessary. Protection nets or armstraps must be used.

Am i missing something??

junde
04-23-2012, 10:51
Ok, so if we now buy armstraps and windownets from usa we can use theese allso next year.
(and Iīm not talkin about any fishing nets but real products made for this use even that they donīt have FIA approval.)


Junde

Tommy
04-23-2012, 11:03
for sure!!

Lasse suzicán
04-23-2012, 19:31
3.4.2.12 Protective netting /Armstraps
Recommended but not necessary. Protection nets or armstraps must be used.
Am i missing something??
No Brynjar...
You didnīt miss anything. The text "Recommended but not necessary." is striked (overlined) in the regulations, but it is not visible here. I've done the old, no longer valid text blue above....

Lasse suzicán
04-23-2012, 19:36
Ok, so if we now buy armstraps and windownets from usa we can use theese allso next year.
(and Iīm not talkin about any fishing nets but real products made for this use even that they donīt have FIA approval.)


Junde
You donīt need to have both straps and net. Itīs either straps or net.

And as for the net. Max 50mm mesh size and min 2mm wire/thread will be ok...

junde
04-24-2012, 06:16
yeah, I knew that, I'm talking behalf of several finnish drivers, but it is good that you claryfy this so that everybody who reads this forum gets correct information.

giacomo
05-03-2012, 10:46
Here is a question I have not been able to answer.

Here in Italy (and I think in all south-Europe) the latest version of the suzuki samurai came on the market with full plastic front and rear bumpers and power steering as standard equipment.

Please note that this is NOT the so called "coily samurai" but an updated version of the classic samurai with leaf springs.

Some drivers in the ORIGINAL category asked me if it is possible for them to upgrade their older model samurais with these plastic bumpers and the original power steering.

The rules for ORIGINAL say "All accessories and all special equipment, which can be supplied with the vehicle purchase, are allowed if no restrictions are present. Older vehicles may be brought up to date, according to its type."

Then I would say YES, but what is your opinion on this?

Also what kind of documentation the driver should bring with him to attest this during the technical verifications?
A commercial brochure or even this same picture can be considered as a valid documentation?

Thanks in advance
Giacomo

giacomo
05-25-2012, 08:16
Any input on this matter?
Lasse, Tommy?
anyone??
Thanks